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HB 1229...
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HB 1229...
How does the State expect this to be enforced? I'm talking about private sales. If I sold my 9 to my next door neighbor, how would anyone know? Even if the gun is used in a crime, it's not traced back to me. The record of sale stopped at the store I purchased it from. They even told me the CBI doesn't keep a record, and can't acquire them.


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03-05-2013 09:49 AM
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HB 1229...
Unenforceable, just as the other BS bills. Sheriffs have already said as much. Nothing will change for day-to-day. Doesn't mean we need to stop fighting though.


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03-05-2013 09:59 AM
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RE: HB 1229...
(03-05-2013 09:49 AM)vader33 Wrote:  How does the State expect this to be enforced? I'm talking about private sales. If I sold my 9 to my next door neighbor, how would anyone know? Even if the gun is used in a crime, it's not traced back to me. The record of sale stopped at the store I purchased it from. They even told me the CBI doesn't keep a record, and can't acquire them.

Registration. Coming soon on a bill to protect you! This bill will completely track all firearms. If a gun is used in a crime they'll know who it belongs to immediately. This is for your safety. Think of the children. Any firearm not registered will be confiscated immediately upon discovery.

Seriously though, registration is the only viable way to eliminate private sales. People would have to register firearms already in their possession. There would have to be a reporting system for lost, stolen or sold firearms.

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03-05-2013 10:18 AM
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(03-05-2013 10:18 AM)Beau Wrote:  Registration. Coming soon on a bill to protect you! This bill will completely track all firearms. If a gun is used in a crime they'll know who it belongs to immediately. This is for your safety. Think of the children. Any firearm not registered will be confiscated immediately upon discovery.

Seriously though, registration is the only viable way to eliminate private sales. People would have to register firearms already in their possession. There would have to be a reporting system for lost, stolen or sold firearms.

I can see this coming as long as the Dems control the state.
03-05-2013 10:34 AM
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(03-05-2013 10:18 AM)Beau Wrote:  Registration. Coming soon on a bill to protect you! This bill will completely track all firearms. If a gun is used in a crime they'll know who it belongs to immediately. This is for your safety. Think of the children. Any firearm not registered will be confiscated immediately upon discovery.

Seriously though, registration is the only viable way to eliminate private sales. People would have to register firearms already in their possession. There would have to be a reporting system for lost, stolen or sold firearms.

Again, how would that be enforced? The government just trusts us to say, "Hey, I've got some guns?"

If they don't know who has them now, they're not gonna know then. Aside from new store purchases, anyway.


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03-05-2013 06:34 PM
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(03-05-2013 10:18 AM)Beau Wrote:  Registration. Coming soon on a bill to protect you! This bill will completely track all firearms. If a gun is used in a crime they'll know who it belongs to immediately. This is for your safety. Think of the children. Any firearm not registered will be confiscated immediately upon discovery.

Seriously though, registration is the only viable way to eliminate private sales. People would have to register firearms already in their possession. There would have to be a reporting system for lost, stolen or sold firearms.
What guns? I don't have any guns to register!

Got a wife and kids in Baltimore jack, i went out for a ride and never went back. BS
03-05-2013 07:19 PM
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The bill that CONFUSES me is SB196 - the one that would hold manufacturers, etc., etc. liable for "discharges" from an ASSAULT WEAPON. I'm confused about the definition of "bolt action." I have several lever action rifles and one semi-auto rifle. I'd start a new thread but don't know for sure how.
03-05-2013 08:10 PM
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The only voice of reason I have heard in any of this came from the Colorado Sheriffs' collective voice at the Senate hearings. And it was ignored. The laws are unenforceable. Unless some branch of law enforcement pulls a sting operation. At this stage, all the new laws are just a "feel good" measure for the legislators who voted for them and doing so may help them get re-elected.
03-14-2013 02:26 PM
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(03-14-2013 02:26 PM)gold dude Wrote:  At this stage, all the new laws are just a "feel good" measure...
Not exactly, it will enable them to harass and/or arrest enemies of the state.

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03-14-2013 03:27 PM
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RE: HB 1229...
Unenforceable except with a sting (like Chicago has been doing) or after the fact.
03-14-2013 04:58 PM
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