http://www.cogunowners.com/ Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:49:29 +0000 MyBB http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=167 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:20:04 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=167 North Carolina declared 'gun free zone' in anticipation of Hurricane Earl - National gun rights | Examiner.com


North Carolina's governor has invoked a state of emergency in NC. Along with empowering the government, she also disarmed everyone who carries a firearm for protection. If the hurricane does hit head on and things go to hell, the citizens of NC, (and anyone passing through with a license to carry) will be forbidden to carry outside their homes. The even affects people who are far away from the coast line and effectively negates their permit system and the right to defend ones self.]]> North Carolina declared 'gun free zone' in anticipation of Hurricane Earl - National gun rights | Examiner.com


North Carolina's governor has invoked a state of emergency in NC. Along with empowering the government, she also disarmed everyone who carries a firearm for protection. If the hurricane does hit head on and things go to hell, the citizens of NC, (and anyone passing through with a license to carry) will be forbidden to carry outside their homes. The even affects people who are far away from the coast line and effectively negates their permit system and the right to defend ones self.]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=166 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:39:18 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=166 http://www.brenhambanner.com/articles/20...news03.txt

This is great. If only more banks and businesses had this thought process.]]> http://www.brenhambanner.com/articles/20...news03.txt

This is great. If only more banks and businesses had this thought process.]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=161 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:55:08 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=161
Look forward to some good conversation.]]>
Look forward to some good conversation.]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=160 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:44:32 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=160 i don't like any type of gun..]]> i don't like any type of gun..]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=151 Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:00:29 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=151 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=149 Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:43:45 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=149
My wife likes shoot a colt 38sp and she is good, I shoot a 9mm Springfield and I am pretty good. We both have conceled permits.

I have A colt frontier scout, nickle plated 22 lr and 22wmr. I bought it in 1964 in Texas. I also have a 1911 colt and a 30 cal M1.

Well enough history , Iam sure I will enjoy with this group. By.]]>
My wife likes shoot a colt 38sp and she is good, I shoot a 9mm Springfield and I am pretty good. We both have conceled permits.

I have A colt frontier scout, nickle plated 22 lr and 22wmr. I bought it in 1964 in Texas. I also have a 1911 colt and a 30 cal M1.

Well enough history , Iam sure I will enjoy with this group. By.]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=146 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:18:38 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=146 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=142 Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:08:40 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=142 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=137 Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:10:02 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=137
My name is Aaron and I live in Lakewood. I was in the U.S. Navy for a number of years as a Master at Arms (MA/MP) and I now openly carry a Springfield Armory XD-40.

I came across this through some research on the interwebs as to just what my rights are here in the Civi world in regards to what would take to get a CHP(CCW).

I am looking forward to helping do what I can to help erase the ignorance in regards to Firearms and our rights.]]>
My name is Aaron and I live in Lakewood. I was in the U.S. Navy for a number of years as a Master at Arms (MA/MP) and I now openly carry a Springfield Armory XD-40.

I came across this through some research on the interwebs as to just what my rights are here in the Civi world in regards to what would take to get a CHP(CCW).

I am looking forward to helping do what I can to help erase the ignorance in regards to Firearms and our rights.]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=136 Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:51:15 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=136
I just got into Denver yesterday from Indiana. Fortunately for me, Beau (not sure if his handle is the same here as it was on INGO) gave me info about this site. And unlike all the other posers, I am a CO resident in CO!

I have a Detonics Scoremaster and now that I'm here I am going to apply for my CCW and occasionally OC. I like that CO doesn't tax you into excercising some of your rights.

Look forward to meeting some of you guys. Safe and fun shooting for all.
Chris]]>
I just got into Denver yesterday from Indiana. Fortunately for me, Beau (not sure if his handle is the same here as it was on INGO) gave me info about this site. And unlike all the other posers, I am a CO resident in CO!

I have a Detonics Scoremaster and now that I'm here I am going to apply for my CCW and occasionally OC. I like that CO doesn't tax you into excercising some of your rights.

Look forward to meeting some of you guys. Safe and fun shooting for all.
Chris]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=127 Thu, 27 May 2010 22:53:01 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=127 Always willing to learn as much as I can and share what I know.]]> Always willing to learn as much as I can and share what I know.]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=126 Thu, 27 May 2010 21:35:18 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=126
I'm a Glock nut, and a .45 ACP nut, the worst of both fanatics I know. I do have several other manufacturers and calibers in my collection. I also reload, mainly long gun loads but also 10mm, since no one sells it .

I look forward to some good discussions here. Also, if anyone rides a motorcycle let me know, I'm recruiting for motorcycle club.]]>
I'm a Glock nut, and a .45 ACP nut, the worst of both fanatics I know. I do have several other manufacturers and calibers in my collection. I also reload, mainly long gun loads but also 10mm, since no one sells it .

I look forward to some good discussions here. Also, if anyone rides a motorcycle let me know, I'm recruiting for motorcycle club.]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=109 Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:42:47 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=109
And remember, always, ]]>
And remember, always, ]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=108 Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:01:10 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=108
To access the classifieds without becoming a site supporter you must have a quality post count of 50. You may skip the 50 post count rule by becoming a site supporter. Once you reach 50 posts it is your responsibility to PM myself or another moderator to inform us. We will review your posts and if they are up to par you will be given access to the classifieds. At this time I am not setting a limit on the number of posts you may have in the classifieds. This of course may change in the future if I deem it necessary.

Thank you to those who participated in the poll.]]>
To access the classifieds without becoming a site supporter you must have a quality post count of 50. You may skip the 50 post count rule by becoming a site supporter. Once you reach 50 posts it is your responsibility to PM myself or another moderator to inform us. We will review your posts and if they are up to par you will be given access to the classifieds. At this time I am not setting a limit on the number of posts you may have in the classifieds. This of course may change in the future if I deem it necessary.

Thank you to those who participated in the poll.]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=103 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:51:25 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=103 Facebook: Colorado Gun Owners (COGO)]]> Facebook: Colorado Gun Owners (COGO)]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=102 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:11:03 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=102
I would really like your feedback though. Please vote in the poll.]]>
I would really like your feedback though. Please vote in the poll.]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=101 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:03:13 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=101 http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14871553

Greeley teenager mistakenly shoots 15-year-old brother
The Denver Post
Posted: 04/13/2010 01:00:00 AM MDT
Updated: 04/13/2010 01:29:46 AM MDT


GREELEY — A Greeley teen died Sunday when his sister "accidentally" fired a handgun inside their home, hitting the boy in the lower chest, police said.

The shooting happened just before 5 p.m. at a home in the 1400 block of Eighth Street, said Sgt. Joe Tymkowych, Greeley Police Department spokesman.

Tymkowych said the girl, who is 17 or 18, picked up a loaded handgun that was on a kitchen counter and the weapon fired. The lone shot hit her 15-year-old brother, who was sitting on a couch in a nearby room.

Family members have been interviewed about the shooting and were cooperative, Tymkowych said.

"It is apparently an accidental shooting," Tymkowych said. "We don't have anything to consider it otherwise."

The investigation is ongoing, Tymkowych said, and results will be turned over to the Weld County District Attorney's Office. The DA's office will decide whether criminal charges, if any, will be filed.

The names of the victim and his sister were not released.

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Very sad. If firearms are kept in the home one would think that an 18 year old would have been taught safe handling by the parents.]]> http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14871553

Greeley teenager mistakenly shoots 15-year-old brother
The Denver Post
Posted: 04/13/2010 01:00:00 AM MDT
Updated: 04/13/2010 01:29:46 AM MDT


GREELEY — A Greeley teen died Sunday when his sister "accidentally" fired a handgun inside their home, hitting the boy in the lower chest, police said.

The shooting happened just before 5 p.m. at a home in the 1400 block of Eighth Street, said Sgt. Joe Tymkowych, Greeley Police Department spokesman.

Tymkowych said the girl, who is 17 or 18, picked up a loaded handgun that was on a kitchen counter and the weapon fired. The lone shot hit her 15-year-old brother, who was sitting on a couch in a nearby room.

Family members have been interviewed about the shooting and were cooperative, Tymkowych said.

"It is apparently an accidental shooting," Tymkowych said. "We don't have anything to consider it otherwise."

The investigation is ongoing, Tymkowych said, and results will be turned over to the Weld County District Attorney's Office. The DA's office will decide whether criminal charges, if any, will be filed.

The names of the victim and his sister were not released.

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Very sad. If firearms are kept in the home one would think that an 18 year old would have been taught safe handling by the parents.]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=98 Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:44:11 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=98 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=97 Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:41:06 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=97
It took place at a university in Virginia. A student with a grudge, an immigrant, pulled a gun and went on a shooting spree. It wasn’t Virginia Tech at all. It was the Appalachian School of Law in Grundy, not far away. You can easily drive from the one school to the other, just take a trip down Route 460 through Tazewell.

It was January 16, 2002 when Peter Odighizuwa came to campus. He had been suspended due to failing grades. Odighizuwa was angry and waving a gun calling on students to “come get me”. The students, seeing the gun, ran. A shooting spree started almost immediately. In seconds Odighizuwa had killed the school dean, a professor and one student. Three other students were shot as well, one in the chest, one in the stomach and one in the throat.

Many students heard the shots. Two who did were Mikael Gross and Tracy Bridges. Mikael was outside the school having just returned to campus from lunch when he heard the shots. Tracy was inside attending class. Both immediately ran to their cars. Each had a handgun locked in the vehicle.

Bridges pulled a .357 Magnum pistol and he later said he was prepared to shoot to kill if necessary. He and Gross both approached Odighizuwa at the same time from different directions. Both were pointing their weapons at him. Bridges yelled for Odighizuwa to drop his weapon. When the shooter realized they had the drop on him he threw his weapon down. A third student, unarmed, Ted Besen, approached the killer and was physically attacked.

But Odighizuwa was now disarmed. The three students were able to restrain him and held him for the police. Odighizuwa is now in prison for the murders he committed. His killing spree ended when he faced two students with weapons. There would be no further victims that day, thanks to armed resistance.

You wouldn’t know much about that though. Do you wonder why? The media, though it widely reported the attack left out the fact that Bridges and Gross were armed. Most simply reported that the gunman was jumped and subdued by other students. That two of those students were now armed didn’t get a mention.

James Eaves-Johnson wrote about this fact one week later in The Daily Iowan. He wrote: “A Lexus-Nexis search revealed 88 stories on the topic, of which only two mentioned that either Bridges or Gross was armed.” This 2002 article noted “This was a very public shooting with a lot of media coverage.” But the media left out information showing how two students with firearms ended the killing spree.

He also mentioned a second incident. And while I had read many articles on this shooting for an article I wrote about school bullying not a single one mentioned the role that a firearm played in stopping it. Until today I didn’t know the full story.

Luke Woodham was a troubled teen. He felt no one really liked him. In 1997 he murdered his mother and put on a trench coat. He filled the pockets with ammunition and took a handgun to the Pearl High School in Pearl, Mississippi. In rapid succession killed two students and wounded seven others.

He had the incident planned out. He would start shooting students and continue until he heard police sirens in the distance. That would allow him time to get in his car and leave campus. From there he intended to go to the nearby Pearl Junior High School and start shooting again. How it would end was not clear. Perhaps he would kill himself or perhaps the police would finally catch up with him and kill him. Either way a lot more people were going to get shot and die.

What Woodham hadn’t planned for was the actions of Assistant Principal Joel Myrick. Myrick heard the gun shots. He couldn’t have a handgun in the school. But he did keep one locked in his vehicle in the parking lot. He ran outside and retrieved the gun.

As Myrick headed back toward the school Woodham was in his vehicle headed for his next intended target. Myrick aimed his gun at the shooter. The teen crashed his car when he saw the gun. Myrick approached the car and held a gun to the killer who surrendered immediately. There would be no further victims that day, thanks to armed resistance.

So you didn’t know about that. Neither did I until today. Eaves-Johnson wrote that there were “687 articles on the school shooting in Pearl, Miss. Of those, only 19 mentioned that” Myrick had used a gun to stop Woodham “four-and-a-half minutes before police arrived.”

Many people probably forgot about the shooting in Edinboro, Pennsylvania. It was a school graduation dance that Andrew Wurst entered to take out his anger on the school. First he shot teacher John Gillette outside. He started shooting randomly inside the restaurant where the 240 students had gathered.

It was restaurant owner James Strand, armed with a shot gun, who captured the shooter and held him for police. There would be no further victims that day, thanks to armed resistance.

It was February 12th of this year that a young man entered the Trolley Square Shopping Mall, in Salt Lake City. The mall was a self-declared “gun free zone” forbidding patrons from carrying weapons. He wasn’t worried. In fact he appreciated knowing that his victims couldn’t defend themselves.

He opened fire even before he got inside killing his first victims immediately outside the front door. As he walked down the mall hallway he fired in all directions. Several more people were shot inside a card store immediately inside the mall. The shooter moved on to the Pottery Barns Kids store.

What he didn’t know is that one patron of the mall, Kenneth Hammond, had ignored the signs informing patrons they must be unarmed to enter. He was a police officer but he was not on duty and he was not a police officer for Salt Lake City. By all standards he was a civilian that day and probably should have left his firearm in his vehicle.

It’s a good thing he didn’t. He was sitting in the mall with his wife having dinner when he heard the shots. He told her to hide and to call 911 emergency services. He went to confront the gunman. The killer found himself under gun fire much sooner than he
anticipated. From this point on all his effort was to protect himself from Hammond, he had no time to kill anyone else. Hammond was able to pin down the shooter until police finally arrived and one of them shot the man to death. There would be no further
victims that day, thanks to armed resistance.

In each of these cases a killer is stopped the moment he faces armed resistance. It is clear that in three of these cases the shooter intended to continue his killing spree. In the fourth case, Andrew Wurst, it is not immediately apparent whether he intended to keep shooting or not since he was apprehended by the restaurant owner leaving the scene.

Three of these cases involved armed resistance by students, faculty or civilians. In one case the armed resistance was from an off-duty police officer in a city where he had no legal authority and where he was carrying his weapon in violation of the mall’s gun free policy.

What would have happened if these people waited for the police? In three cases the shooters were apprehended before the police arrived because of armed civilians. At Trolley Square the shooter was kept busy by Hammond until the police arrived. In all four cases the local police were the Johnny-come-latelys.

Consider the horrific events at Virginia Tech. Again an armed man enters a “gun free zone”. He kills two victims and walks away long before the police arrive. He spends two hours on campus, doing what is unknown. He then enters another building on campus and begins shooting. He never encounters a police officer during this. And all the students and faculty present had apparently complied with the “no gun” policy of the university. So no one stopped him. And when he finished his shooting spree 32 people were dead. It was the killer who ended the spree. He took his own life and when the police arrived all they dealt with were the dead.

There were many further victims that day. The shooter never met with armed resistance.

Dr. Michael McKee
mmckee101@yahoo.com]]>
It took place at a university in Virginia. A student with a grudge, an immigrant, pulled a gun and went on a shooting spree. It wasn’t Virginia Tech at all. It was the Appalachian School of Law in Grundy, not far away. You can easily drive from the one school to the other, just take a trip down Route 460 through Tazewell.

It was January 16, 2002 when Peter Odighizuwa came to campus. He had been suspended due to failing grades. Odighizuwa was angry and waving a gun calling on students to “come get me”. The students, seeing the gun, ran. A shooting spree started almost immediately. In seconds Odighizuwa had killed the school dean, a professor and one student. Three other students were shot as well, one in the chest, one in the stomach and one in the throat.

Many students heard the shots. Two who did were Mikael Gross and Tracy Bridges. Mikael was outside the school having just returned to campus from lunch when he heard the shots. Tracy was inside attending class. Both immediately ran to their cars. Each had a handgun locked in the vehicle.

Bridges pulled a .357 Magnum pistol and he later said he was prepared to shoot to kill if necessary. He and Gross both approached Odighizuwa at the same time from different directions. Both were pointing their weapons at him. Bridges yelled for Odighizuwa to drop his weapon. When the shooter realized they had the drop on him he threw his weapon down. A third student, unarmed, Ted Besen, approached the killer and was physically attacked.

But Odighizuwa was now disarmed. The three students were able to restrain him and held him for the police. Odighizuwa is now in prison for the murders he committed. His killing spree ended when he faced two students with weapons. There would be no further victims that day, thanks to armed resistance.

You wouldn’t know much about that though. Do you wonder why? The media, though it widely reported the attack left out the fact that Bridges and Gross were armed. Most simply reported that the gunman was jumped and subdued by other students. That two of those students were now armed didn’t get a mention.

James Eaves-Johnson wrote about this fact one week later in The Daily Iowan. He wrote: “A Lexus-Nexis search revealed 88 stories on the topic, of which only two mentioned that either Bridges or Gross was armed.” This 2002 article noted “This was a very public shooting with a lot of media coverage.” But the media left out information showing how two students with firearms ended the killing spree.

He also mentioned a second incident. And while I had read many articles on this shooting for an article I wrote about school bullying not a single one mentioned the role that a firearm played in stopping it. Until today I didn’t know the full story.

Luke Woodham was a troubled teen. He felt no one really liked him. In 1997 he murdered his mother and put on a trench coat. He filled the pockets with ammunition and took a handgun to the Pearl High School in Pearl, Mississippi. In rapid succession killed two students and wounded seven others.

He had the incident planned out. He would start shooting students and continue until he heard police sirens in the distance. That would allow him time to get in his car and leave campus. From there he intended to go to the nearby Pearl Junior High School and start shooting again. How it would end was not clear. Perhaps he would kill himself or perhaps the police would finally catch up with him and kill him. Either way a lot more people were going to get shot and die.

What Woodham hadn’t planned for was the actions of Assistant Principal Joel Myrick. Myrick heard the gun shots. He couldn’t have a handgun in the school. But he did keep one locked in his vehicle in the parking lot. He ran outside and retrieved the gun.

As Myrick headed back toward the school Woodham was in his vehicle headed for his next intended target. Myrick aimed his gun at the shooter. The teen crashed his car when he saw the gun. Myrick approached the car and held a gun to the killer who surrendered immediately. There would be no further victims that day, thanks to armed resistance.

So you didn’t know about that. Neither did I until today. Eaves-Johnson wrote that there were “687 articles on the school shooting in Pearl, Miss. Of those, only 19 mentioned that” Myrick had used a gun to stop Woodham “four-and-a-half minutes before police arrived.”

Many people probably forgot about the shooting in Edinboro, Pennsylvania. It was a school graduation dance that Andrew Wurst entered to take out his anger on the school. First he shot teacher John Gillette outside. He started shooting randomly inside the restaurant where the 240 students had gathered.

It was restaurant owner James Strand, armed with a shot gun, who captured the shooter and held him for police. There would be no further victims that day, thanks to armed resistance.

It was February 12th of this year that a young man entered the Trolley Square Shopping Mall, in Salt Lake City. The mall was a self-declared “gun free zone” forbidding patrons from carrying weapons. He wasn’t worried. In fact he appreciated knowing that his victims couldn’t defend themselves.

He opened fire even before he got inside killing his first victims immediately outside the front door. As he walked down the mall hallway he fired in all directions. Several more people were shot inside a card store immediately inside the mall. The shooter moved on to the Pottery Barns Kids store.

What he didn’t know is that one patron of the mall, Kenneth Hammond, had ignored the signs informing patrons they must be unarmed to enter. He was a police officer but he was not on duty and he was not a police officer for Salt Lake City. By all standards he was a civilian that day and probably should have left his firearm in his vehicle.

It’s a good thing he didn’t. He was sitting in the mall with his wife having dinner when he heard the shots. He told her to hide and to call 911 emergency services. He went to confront the gunman. The killer found himself under gun fire much sooner than he
anticipated. From this point on all his effort was to protect himself from Hammond, he had no time to kill anyone else. Hammond was able to pin down the shooter until police finally arrived and one of them shot the man to death. There would be no further
victims that day, thanks to armed resistance.

In each of these cases a killer is stopped the moment he faces armed resistance. It is clear that in three of these cases the shooter intended to continue his killing spree. In the fourth case, Andrew Wurst, it is not immediately apparent whether he intended to keep shooting or not since he was apprehended by the restaurant owner leaving the scene.

Three of these cases involved armed resistance by students, faculty or civilians. In one case the armed resistance was from an off-duty police officer in a city where he had no legal authority and where he was carrying his weapon in violation of the mall’s gun free policy.

What would have happened if these people waited for the police? In three cases the shooters were apprehended before the police arrived because of armed civilians. At Trolley Square the shooter was kept busy by Hammond until the police arrived. In all four cases the local police were the Johnny-come-latelys.

Consider the horrific events at Virginia Tech. Again an armed man enters a “gun free zone”. He kills two victims and walks away long before the police arrive. He spends two hours on campus, doing what is unknown. He then enters another building on campus and begins shooting. He never encounters a police officer during this. And all the students and faculty present had apparently complied with the “no gun” policy of the university. So no one stopped him. And when he finished his shooting spree 32 people were dead. It was the killer who ended the spree. He took his own life and when the police arrived all they dealt with were the dead.

There were many further victims that day. The shooter never met with armed resistance.

Dr. Michael McKee
mmckee101@yahoo.com]]> http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=91 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:02:43 -0700 http://www.cogunowners.com/showthread.php?tid=91